3. How does an unsocial guy nervous around women , AND SHORT , get a girlfriend?

How does an unsocial guy nervous around women , AND SHORT , get a girlfriend?

Yeah sorry, it doesn't do any good to put people down for having trouble with something. An incel is just a normal ass guy who is having trouble and is finding help in the wrong places, and it isn't fair for us to berate someone for that. I'll apologize again for my part in that.

As for saying stuff without knowing the person, to be fair this is AskReddit, you were only allowed to give a single question's worth of info to begin with, and in general this is a terrible place to ask for real life advice unless you get really lucky in the comments, lol.

As for seeing women as objects, in this case it's just an assumption people made without context, but there are plenty of guys out there who think of women as some kind of inanimate object or something foreign, or an award that has to be earned, rather than as a normal and insecure person just like the rest of us are. People are quick to judge around here, 100% Just keep trying, nobody can ask more of you than that.

If I can throw another suggestion at you though, try and find a more dedicated mental health subreddit. Those are better (and less judgmental) communities to tell your story and ask for advice. Throwing random questions on AskReddit in a moment of vulnerability or weakness is just asking for trouble lol.

It's good to hear you're trying so hard, keep it up, and make a point to recognize every bit of progress you've made. Take care.

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