My numbers came from the church. Just because they aren't favorable to the rhetoric you subscribe to does not automatically mean what I said is false. I know you are trained to automatically write off anything negative about the church is false, so I don't take offense to your ignorance but i do encourage you to actually look outside of the kids website for a comparison of what their reported charity contributions are and how much they make in tithing. They do have to disclose it to the Canadian government and that is how I know. My comment about the tithing fell align in when I talked about how their practices of baptism for the dead is a harmful one just like their tithing practices. And it isn't just the Mormon church's tithing practices O have a problem with, there are many other churches I feel abuse them. So before you discount everything I said because you were trained to, keep in mind I personally know these facts because I have lived them and they have to legally disclose their numbers. It isn't uncommon for someone to mention multiple harmful practices of an organization when one of them is the topic of conversation.