According to me, the anger you say is the righteousness I say. You don't have to make assumptions about that. That's not from one or two people I spoke to, then projected myself onto. I don't attribute my symptoms to all those with suicidal tendencies but if you believe so it's fine. And if you think about it, as you reach the end of what you said, you can see how that still falls well within what DFW says...that hopelessness and pain or fear is the fire. If you don't believe that either okay. I think if anything you just seem sure anger is a more prevalent component but you haven't noted any reasoning more robust than mine or the writers. My original point was -- this is a model which clearly works well for understanding something widespread and crucial. Many people would agree. A person's inside experience on depression is poorly every quantified. Hearing experiences like this from sufferers is, in my opinion, crucial for the general public. It serves his purpose perfectly and aids in lending insight to readers. It doesn't serve as a medical, legal or scientific textbook definition of any kind. Poke all the holes you want in definitions -- I would be glad to see you do that. Those are situations where statistical significance and minor details can matter greatly. All I'm saying is don't come in the way of people who do good work to help the world develop empathy, writing a book of their perspective and experiences. This is insight from him after all, nothing more or less.