me either but if people who are pvp want to fight others who want to there's no harm and good luck to them, but a lot of these pvp heavy players want to fight people not interested in free roam that's weird, but like you say it's a bit lame on GTA you had BST and various other exploits and here we have tonic chugging and other "meta methods", I'm on RDO to have everything I enjoy the world, if I want to play a pvp game I'll play cod which I do, I don't play cod to unlock every calling card and camo but not be any good at pvp. A lot of pvp heavy players don't have a lot of anything on RDO and to treat this game like cod when very few do is weird, guess that's why most of us have such a low opinion of tryhards on GTA & RDO.