You do raise some good points. Aside from the personal attacks lol.
Let's look at some of them:
Did those bartenders also have healthcare, pension, 401K, paid leave / vacation, disability, etc? Cause those benefits (for engineers) average about $25,000 a year on top of your salary...nation wide, across virtually every engineering field that I can find - putting the average engineering salary (non-senior) around $$90 - 100K.
Some of this is true. Health insurance I do receive, and that is a fair argument. They match 401k up to 3%, so that is something, but not much, you put that in yourself. 401k itself is just an account that you put money in yourself pre-tax and anyone can do it. PTO / sick leave. No. This is not something America excels at. These are benefits that mature like any other. My company does "Forced PTO", which basically means they give you PTO, but they force you to use it too. There is no sick leave.
Judging salary without benefits is absurd. Also, wages for bartenders are all over the place and completely unpredictable - with virutally no room for going up any kind of ladder, unless its to the top shelf scotch. And do bartenders make more or less money as they get older? I should go ask that huge crowd of 50 year old bartenders I know.
That is fair, but if we are considering these factors, shouldn't we also consider the $130,000 of fixed rate 8% non-financable govertment atudent loans? Or the lost time not working by going to college? Or the difficulty of the job itself? Or the pressure?
2) Job growth for ALL engineering postitions across the board has been up 7% since 2010. Engineering in petroleum, mining, biomedical and industrial have all been in double digit growth from 2010 - 2014. Every single engineering occupation (across all fields) has had growth - the highest being Civil engineering at 30%.
Forbes is citing a study that was conducted by careerbuilder.com - hardly an unbiased source. And it isn't a peer reviewed source. We have been hearing for years that it's an "Aging Field" for years.
Aerospace engineering is predicted to have 10.2% growth over the next 10 years, with an average salary of $101,000 / year.
Aerospace is a very small portion of engineering.
Despite this - engineering graduate rates have been static since early 2000s (Forbes article). Demand continues to rise - rate of new graduates is static.
There is a demand for senior engineers.
What does "the bucks are in software right now" even mean?
just use your brain... you can do it!
Are you saying there is no money in engineering because people love apps?
nope. I am saying that the tech bubble popped, and the demand now has shifted to software.
Are you mentally ill?
Ah the hubris
Did they suddenly stop waging wars, and building planes, bridges, cars, computers, hospitals, and gazillion other different industries that employ millions of engineers across the U.S.?
We outsource. I don't know if you have noticed but America is all but fab-less.
Also, is there no software in aerospace?
Aerospace is small
Does it all run by magic?
How's the view up there?
You sound bitter and / or are totally full of shit.
cute butt