The value of being a woman

It's the same on the social side. It seems to me like women have it better. Women are the objects of desire. Women don't have to do anything in particular, if they're attractive their bodies alone have value. Potentially extremely high value, higher than the average person could reasonably achieve through hard work. Men do not have that kind of intrinsic value. I want to be valued. Not because of what I do, but because of what I am. And that was impossible as a man. That sounds terrible even to me but there it is.

Your post is pretty offensive, and the cis male MRA is even more offensive. But I'll try to be calm and articulate things. So, I'll start with hugs <3 <3 <3 and more hugs <#

This might be news to you, but for most of human history women were literally property of men because of us being "objects of desire." That's not a higher value. That's being property. While men are the owners and the ones who get to dole out which female property has higher value than the rest. What about the 95% of women on the planet who aren't the "ideal female body?" Oh right, the rest of us, the majority of us who aren't big name porn stars, or models, have to deal with MRA douche bags saying "I'm a (cis) man and I know women have it better!"

Why did women not do great things in the past? Oh right, women were sex cattle, and valued for their looks and genitals, so they weren't allowed to be at the table with men. Our places were in the bedroom, raising children in the den, cooking meals for everyone and doing the dishes, and oh, the upkeep of our looks so we keep our "value" for our man to see in us.

Have you ever been some rich dude's fuck toy before? You think that's fun? Have you ever taken care of a house, raised children, prepared all meals, cleaned the kitchen up afterwards for more than one person, and worked a part time job on top of all of that? You think that's "easy?" labor is labor, be that labor of building roads, or taking care of houses. I've worked manual labor jobs, and I've been a house wife. They're both difficult, and only one of them is given respect and seen as worth while, and it's not the house wife.

And being a fucking sex object to be owned and valued for your body to later be discarded by men who are still first class citizens is not a privilege.

I want to be valued.

Look. Rich people use all people. For the average person, men can get the shit kicked out of them at any time, and women can be sexually violated at any time. I've been the one on the ground getting beat up by guys before, and I've been the one drugged and raped before. I'll tell you which one left deeper scars, and it wasn't the one were I was assumed a boy beat up for being a fag.

MRAs are blind, entitled douche bags who hyper focus on "pretty girls" without realizing they're turning them into, as you said "objects."

Women don't have to do anything in particular

ha! Except you know the single Mom, who's baby's dad left her because she was no longer as you say an "attractive their bodies alone have value" and has to work three part time minimum wage jobs. Do you really think the majority of women are living the "Easy Life" because they're pretty? Do you really think the majority of women are "pretty" like this where they're valued solely for their looks by men?

Most women go unnoticed to an MRA like this. To an MRA like this they can't even see how they're thinking of women as objects to be taken, or had, or bought, or coveted, or whatever else you can come up with for owning a female body. They then turn around and ignore 95% of the data points in their theory because they probably think "ugly" women should "do what's best for them" and get pretty so they can be some man's object of value.

Of course, some of them simply hinge on being attractive, but still...

All of it does, and you're not understanding that being an "object" valued for shall we say "its" looks is not the same as being a human being valued for who they are as a person.

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