While it is a bonus if you stop masturbaiting, your primary goal should be to stop watching porn.

Yeah I get what you mean. People here are still in denial or missing the bigger picture here. They are sex addicts. Sex addiction is really something bigger than just porn. It's masturbation, it's sexual fantises, it's sexting, it's flirting without the intention to really go out with this girl, it's dating app without the intention to really form true relationship but just getting exicted by the likes and matches and approval. It's so much than just porn.

People here don't realize it. Porn isn't the problem nor masturbation. I mean yes it is the problem, but it's more bigger than what they think. We are not addicted to masturbation or porn, we are addicted to our own neurotransmitters, to our own high feelings. We are addicted to this high spike of dopamine. Thus getting addicted not only to porn but to masturbation, sexting, dating apps etc.

Look, it's much more harder to abstain from something which people justifiy those actions and behaviour, especially science which really dissapoints me.

"Masturbation is an healthy activity by males and females"

"It's okay to masturbate everyday multiple times a day. It's just means you are in age of horomones and have high sex drive"

"You have high sex drive. It's healthy"

"Masturbation and porn helps to reduce stress and increase sperm count"

I mean look what society think here. Most of people consider it healthy. Then you really surprised you got this post? If alcohol was illegal to drink, you would see less alcholism. If masturbation and porn was something illegal, you would see less sex addicts.

If drugs would be legelized you would see a lot of more junkies on the street.

The western society always support something external to help us to cope with mental and physical problems.

Which is absurd. Someone with high cholosterol goes to the doctor and he will give him pills right away. When you can solve it pretty much better with some healthy food and exercise.

Same here. People here with stress and loneliness and depression will go towards porn and masturbation, and won't admit that it's just the same as taking dangerous drugs. Because society hasn't said that yet.

Same with all of these pills people taking for mental health and physical health to solve all of their problems.

Look at the shaolin monks or buddhist monks in general. Most of them do not take any pills to be healthy. Because they listen to Buddha. And his teachings. Which still true to this day. Many people in the east understood that everything is within ourselves. Look how strong shaolin monks are, that's crazy. Thats what everyone should for as an ideal in terms of self control. Thry have a gf, some deciding to be celibate, they using only western's technology for checking and using meditation and other practices to help them with their mental problems and sometimes their physical too. That's the ideal. That what every man want.

I don't say be a monk. But aim for it where it suits you.

I got out of topic but yeah..

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