Why Are Politicians So Obsessed With Manufacturing? - The New York Times

I see downvotes are being used to criticize me instead of good discussion.

Well, when you spout such obvious nonsense as

What year did McD's become a "manufacturing" job

you don't really seem like you're worth discussion. That never happened, never will happen, and to suggest otherwise demonstrates such a blatant disregard for reality and willingness to twist reality to fit a self-serving narrative that I assume you must be a Trump supporter. It actually makes sense that he has so much support, if there are enough idiots like you who will believe any bullshit that is shat their way provided it confirms their biases.

I get it, you've had a rough time. That still doesn't turn your anecdotal experience into data though.

The standard employment measure hasm't been consistent for 8 years, but your chart shows 80.

This once again demonstrates a profound lack of the sort of thinking ability that makes discussion worthwhile. You are reciting canned talking points that reference unemployment, this chart references relative employment, so the measure isn't all that important as long as it is consistently applied across all areas in a particular year. Who gives a shit what labor participation was. Do you even understand what the chart is showing? If they were progressively inflating total labor figures, that would just make your argument weaker, since that would mean manufacturing as a share of total labor hasn't declined as much as it appears (or do you think there was somehow ever a time when factory work wasn't counted under the umbrella of "employment").

More importantly, fact that you so quickly handwave away any evidence presented as "so politicized" strongly indicates that you will similarly dismiss any other contrary evidence. What's the point? Is there any evidence that you would accept as valid? I mean, other than the spittle-flecked blathering of a mentally disabled animate pumpkin, that is...

Who the heck makes $25/hr?

The average manufacturing wage in the US is over $20/hr. That means shitloads of manufacturing workers make over $25/hr. Sorry you aren't one of them. I guess that's everyone's fault but yours right?

Of course, if we had the protectionist trade policies you seem to be arguing for, perhaps you would have a bit higher wage. Then again it wouldn't go as far because literally everything you consume would be significantly more expensive. Not only that, the decreased spending power of the american consumers would mean the economy as a whole was less robust, so there's a good chance you wouldn't have a job at all...

Low-skilled manufacturing jobs will never pay anywhere close to what they did after WWII. Sorry, but you have to compete with the entire world now, and even with tariffs that would still be the case. People need to stop comparing the present to a period in time when we were literally the only functioning industrial economy on the planet and expect those conditions to return.

Adapt to the new reality.

The US economy does much better with free trade than without. Yes, we could do a bit more to help the small percentage of workers adversely affected share in the benefits, but starting trade wars is the absolutely stupidest way to go about it. It would absolutely destroy the very people pushing for it.

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