ATP Flight School Sacramento

OK; There's a reason why almost all the stuff you read about ATP online is bad. The Bad: 1. Quality of instruction. Every single instructor at ATP is somebody who learned to fly in 6 months; who was trained by somebody who learned to fly in 6 months. You will also have several different instructors during your training since you're instructors will leave as soon as they get 1500 hours or will be fired. I had 4 different instructors in 10 months. having different instructors makes it impossible for an instructor to fix bad habits. If you go to a local FBO you will most likely have the same instructor for all of youre training. You're not gonna finish in 6 months. 6 months means flying 7 days a week with zero cancellations and zero busted checkrides. ATP switched to flying 5 days a week recently; and you will probably bust at least 1 check ride (everybody does, especially at ATP) and have at least 2 lessons a month cancelled for weather. 10 - 12 months is more realistic. The cost is absurd. $225 an hour for a C172 and instruction is ridiculous. At a local FBO the average cost will be 175ish an hour. This really adds up after you ly 250 hours at ATP (I spent 64k + interest). You also get charged $75 dollars per post flight briefing which is literally just your instructor telling you what you did wrong for 10 minutes. This is probably the biggest scam at ATP. God forbid you have to buy more time and they charge you a fee for going over the alloted time. I've seen people be charged over 5 grand for just repeating a few lessons. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THIS POINT. Literally zero guidance what so ever. Youre expected to already know things that should be taught by your instructor (stuff that isn't taught in ground school). This leads to you wasting time in the air getting explanations that you should've got on the ground. Management is also under pressure to get you through the program as fast as possible; You will be scolded if you want to review things and go back and do a lesson over. IF they do let you do it you will be charged an absurd amount. Shady marketing; There is NO guaranteed CFI job no matter what they try to tell you. Although it doesn't really matter since you can get a CFI job else where pretty easily. Do not buy into their excellent marketing. The Good: 1. There planes are pretty nice and you will never be grounded for maintenance; if your assigned plane is down for the day they will just put you in another one. You will have access to a simulator whenever it is not booked by an instructor. This is usually only on weekend; but you'll also be competing with other students to use it. Cross countries are actual cross countries since they have facilities at other airports. For example I flew from Mesa to Las vegas and Mesa to Long Beach. I'd strongly recommend going to a local flight school at an airport that has an instructor who has a ton of experience instructing and is instructing because they want to instruct; and not because they want to build time. There will usually be one of these at every airport; not to mention the cost will be probably be half of what it is at ATP. That being said if you do decide to go to ATP; You really need to take an online ground school and pass the written before showing up. You simply wont have time to learn the ground stuff if youre flying every day. You will thank me immensely if you do this. You'll be able to chair fly and study the PoH during your off time instead of studying redundant ground school on the garbage program they give you. Do the program that has the least amount of multi engine time ( I think one is 25 hours and one is 100 hours). A multi engine plane is 500 dollars an hour. There is literally zero need to spend that kind of extra money on multi time when you can get that time when you begin instructing for free.

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