Forgotten Heroes. The Dharmi Faujis (soldiers of the faith). Sikh soldiers from the Indian Army, who left their jobs, losing pensions, money and rank in response to Operation Bluestar. Many were imprisoned. Whole Sikh regiments shot as they tried to get to Amritsar.

First off I don't hate India, I hate how Indian politicians and many citizens view India as a Hindu country, and that all other religions are simply sects of Hinduism. Following that, I don't agree with a "Sikh" state, just a country for Panjabis, but that is neither here nor there.

So, we agree on the initial point. I disagree with the last point in this paragraph. But, agree to disagree.

I never once clumped together Sikhi with Khalistan.

My point was that you said it was rude (paraphrasing) of me to criticise Khalistan in a Sikh sub. My point was that they are two different things. And, that if I criticsex Khalistan that I wasnt criticising Sikhi and then my actions were therefor not rude.

I have no idea where you are going, but it seems like it is a desperate attempt to grasp at straws that aren't even there.

Not even worth my time responding to you beyond typing thus.

My family also lived in Panjab since men first inhabited that region. Whoop dee doo. Where the fuck does that fit in with our discussion? Refer to my point above^

Khalistanis in Canada, UK, and IS often tell Hindus that we arent realy Punjabis and that we shoudl clear out so as to make way for real Punjabis: khalistanis.

Nobody is telling you to get out, and neither were the Khalistanis.

OMG, this reads out of a Ikhwan playbook were they say all Chaldean Cargolics are welcome and true Egyptians...and thrn they slaughter them when CNN takes off.

If that's what you believe, you are HUGELY misinformed. But like I said, I'm not explaining and of that in this thread.

That's my point, you have the Hindu perspective. You don't know what it's like hearing that innocent women children and men were systematically raped, burned alive, maimed, captured, tortured, and killed. If you think that people were being randomly pulled off buses to be killed was a Khalistani exclusive occurrence, you're dead wrong. But like I said, I'm not getting into that mess.

Definitely, just like I don't try to defend people pulling anyone of buses or stealing land/extorting like you said.

Lastly: If you think for a second that what happened in Panjab was because of the Khalistanis, and not the other way around... then you have a shitload of researching to do, and asking your relatives does not count.

You are either saying that asking my relatives isnt enough research, or my relatives suffering doesnr count because we arent Khalistani, or my relatives suffering isnt informative enough because it doesn't coincide with your conclusions. A lot of ambiguity. So, I can't respond about that.

Umm, but in the second to last paragraph. I think you and I agree again. Innocent men, women, children, etc should never die. And, yes...India needs to invesitgate fully and hold the like of Tytler and that other guy responsible (they will neve have an independent investigation/shame on the government for that/was more than just Tytler)

But in so much as what happened to the Lhalistanis...the guys who barricaded themselves inside Darbar Saab...they played a stupid game. And they won some stupid prizes.

/r/Sikh Thread Parent Link - youtube.com