That's not true in the slightest. Just because someones fighting back doesn't mean it's not a PvP scenario. That's mental gymnastics to try and justify someone who doesn't want to engage in fights with another player being in a PvP area and being upset that they got attacked. It's PvP.

It's like someone going on Team Fortress 2 and crouch spamming to be a friendly and then being upset when the Heavy on the other team killed them. It's a PvP environment. This isn't negotiable but this entire sub seems fixated on trying to constantly move that goalpost until they can't be attacked by another player even when they knowingly enter a PvP area.