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Yes Voters / supporters, what do you think the nature of current Independence support is? do you think it comes from a desire for Scottish self-government or more an anti-elitist vote much like (what I think happened) with Brexit? or something else entirely?

I think it's majority self government, I don't think as a movement the majority buys the Trumpism position of everyone where the anti-elitism is mostly just a rag tag collection of people who are absolutely still elites but have the benefit of being disliked by the established elites.

If anything it isn't anti-elitism, it's just self destructive contrarianism.

There is of course a fairly sizable non-majority section of independence support that just wants out of everything. Predominantly the hard left and classic liberal types. I'm not sure I'd class that as the above anti-elitism, it's just your typical more radical political positions who have always and will always want something very very different from the center. In a referendum they're forced to choose and if you want radical change then the UK isn't going to deliver it, a YES vote just might.

And also to reverse that, please comment what you think the opposite position to the one you hold is based on.

In 2014 it was very clear to me why a person would vote to remain in the UK.

Now? Outside of those strongly attached to the identity I can't see how anyone can look at the current mess of a situation and the its thousands of potential outcomes and still say they wouldn't vote for independence. The issues are different but so is the status quo.

Anything short of a complete capitulation of its principles by the EU - to allow single market without free movement to the UK - I don't see a scenario whereby a majority of Scotland is comfortable with the political direction of the UK.

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