Over 500 rabbis urge Israel to stop demolition of Palestinian homes. Rabbis for Human Rights (RHR) say Benjamin Netanyahu's stance is against “international law and Jewish tradition.”

apartheid state? no. but a state, in a general peaceful sense, maybe. sudan just split into a new country to protect half of its population. and the kurds probably have a good argument for their own state somewhere. you do realize most, if not every, middle eastern country discriminate in their laws and systems against non-muslims? and that jews aren't legally allowed in certain countries, like saudi arabia, even though hundreds or thousands of years ago, lots of jews lived there. do they count as an apartheid state, or does it just not matter because other religions and ethnicities have been gone for so long? where do you draw the line?

but back to israel. there weren't many places for the jews to go in the 1930s and 1940s. the only country that offered to take the couple million or so jewish survivors from the holocaust was the dominican republic. and they took like 800. that was great, but we are talking millions here. where should they have gone? read up on it, literally no one wanted them back. lots of smart asses nowadays will say "go back to europe." or "go to canada, the us, etc." none of those countries stepped up to take in this massive number of refugees! look it up. as an example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89vian_Conference

well how about this for an option...a little strip of land that britain owned. they were willing to turn it over to the jews through a UN vote. the UN voted and 75% voted in favor of transferring this land to jews to build their own country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine#Final_vote

can't do much better that internationally. but based on your tone about "zionism" you act like this lacks legitimacy. obviously, this isn't a perfect remedy. it is unfair to many palestinians. but i haven't seen a better idea. of the 25% who voted against it, 10% didn't vote, and 15% were arab countries. many of them would go on to fight wars with israel. israel would go on to sign peace treaties with some of them, like egypt and jordan.

do you disagree with the existence of israel? i take issue with the use of zionism as a derogatory term. i guess it has different meanings to different people. but in its simplest form, and the way i think most jews understand it, is it means the right of jews to have their own country. and the way this country came about in the 1940s, I can't think of a more legitamite way for it to have happen under those circumstances.

as for the palestinians, they deserve their own state and peace and protection too. that isn't mutually exclusive. i want peace and protection for jews (aka zionism and a state of israel) and i want peace for protection for palestinians (aka a palestinian state).

as a thought experiment, let's say they do eventually have their own peace and create their own state alongside israel. i will be very interested to see what rights jews will have in their countries. what's the most realistic set of events we can imagine where there's some semblance of peace and a 2-state solution? imagine it's the year 2020. gaza and west bank form a joint government and israel and palestine strike a peace treaty. maybe they agree on the 1967 borders. based on what you know about hamas, do you think their treatment of jews will be more or less discriminatory than israel's treatment of non-jews? if they have policies that favor the rights of palestinians and muslims over jews, would you post on reddit and social media about how palestine is an apartheid state?

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