Religion in Africa [1186 x 1374]

Par Robertson, is that you? Just, wow. Once again, you are outing yourself in regards to how little actual knowledge you have and how much of your commentary is sensationalist, propaganda steeped hogwash. I really want to write a badhistory post about this particular comment, but then the rebuttals might not actually directly reach your ears.

I don't have the time or energy to parse through all the bullshit in your comments, but lets look at a couple glaring issues here in this one. First of all, reducing the entire dynamic of Muslim-Christian relations in the early medieval period to simply 'murder and enslavement' is so ignorant that it's not even worth addressing. But the fact that you put taxation alongside 'murder and enslavement' leads me to believe you aren't actually a functioning adult. FYI, a big part of why Islam and the Islamic empire was able to take such firm hold in the middle east is that the tax codes it brought (yes the big bad Jizya) were in many (most) instances preferable to the existing systems in place by the Byzantine and Persian empires which had by the 7th century become extremely overbearing.

You know, the 7th century when the Caliphate was formed. This is an important detail to mention because you cast off the Arab ruling class at the time of the crusades summarily as "homicidal maniac tribesman from basically the least developed part of the known world". Now, I could go into detail about how your description of 7th century Arabia/Arabians is completely off base and how using 'homicidal maniacs' as a description of an entire people and society is a laughably juvenile sentiment in any educated circle. But the thing is my friend, we are talking about 11th century Arabs here. You know, when the first crusades happened. At that point, this society had being ruling over and administering the largest empire in human history, encompassing many of the most developed parts of the world, for over 300 years. That's longer than America has been a nation. The Arabs of the 11th century were hardly the same as their ancestors 4 centuries earlier, and even then you have proven to not know jack about 7th century Arabs to begin with- demonstrated by the selected quote cited earlier. If you can't accept that you know nothing about 7th century Arabia, I hope you can at least grasp that extrapolating the presumed qualities of a people in the 7th century to the same people 400 years later (despite wildly different circumstances and setting) is an exercise in failure.

"The. crusades weren't a war OF religion, they were a war FOR religion"

Wut. This reminded me of the song "Niggas in Paris" : "What does that even mean?" "No one knows but it's provocative. It gets the people going". I chuckled.

I would get into how Islam (the religion) was not spread by the sword, but gauging off your 'homicidal maniac' comment, I can safely assume that that discussion is far too nuanced and intellectually intensive to hold with someone like you. Echoing the brilliant statement someone made earlier, maybe you should stick to Disney movies man. It's only there that you will find the cartoonishly black and white scenarios that your mind seems to be limited to.

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