Then provide factual evidence for what you believe as I have. Like, a link would be nice. I've given you 2 without you ever even asking for any and you can't give me any, not a one. DONUT.
I'm not saying the fact that you never called it war means anything other than to hint at what you really believe, you're just defending yourself but under what JUSTIFICATION are you defending your non-positions? All you're saying is "the situation is more complex than either of us understand" and whenever i give you PROOF you just keep MOVING THE GOALPOSTS back, "there were, and still are, many other factors at play" stop regurgitating your baseless rhetoric and SHOW ME THESE OTHER FACTORS. LINK ME TO THEM, AS I HAVE GIVEN YOU PROOF. "and that's hardly proof" no, sir. That's you choosing to ignore evidence, if you thought it was "hardly proof" then PICK IT APART and point me to the SPECIFIC PARTS you DISAGREE with and WHY.
Awfully big and crude assumptions??? Are you kidding me?? Well then be clear and please, tell me SPECIFICALLY what you believe when you say "13 years sure seems like a long time, until you realize that even relatively young countries have been around for MUCH longer. And the issues being fought over have, in some instances, persisted for CENTURIES." WHAT THE HELL does that even MEAN?? What are you SAYING EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY, stop being so VAGUE.
"13 years isn't really all that long when it comes to international politics" Please, stop beating around the bush, people are having bombs dropped on them, people are killing each other, this is 13 years of WAR, not INTERNATIONAL POLITICS. STOP DOWNPLAYING IT EVERY CHANCE YOU GET. IT'S DISGUSTINGLY DISINGENUOUS. And you're not talking about muslims? really dude? you're trying to be politically correct as possible to the point where it's ridiculous. We're talking about THE WAR ON TERROR, WHAT OTHER GROUP OF RADICAL EXTREMISTS WOULD WE BE TALKING ABOUT! COME ON! Stop with your silly games man. Now does that mean i believe ALL MUSLIMS are extremists? of course not, that's absurd.
"Valid elements of our foreign policy"? Dude, again, WHAT ELEMENTS??? SPECIFICALLY! NUANCE! DETAILS! SPILL THE BEANS MAN! Stop saying, "I believe this" without answering "WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT?" and then act like the victim who's been attacked by, "OH NOES! HE'S ASKED ME FOR WHAT I REALLY THINK! guffaw gasp SPECIFICITY!"
warningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarningwarnin YOU CANNOT SAY THAT I HAVE NOT GIVEN YOU EVIDENCE ON WHICH I BASE MY CLAIMS, IF YOU ARE TO SAY THAT, YOU ARE BEING WILLFULLY FALLACIOUS FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT. WHETHER OR NOT YOU CHOOSE TO RECOGNIZE SAID EVIDENCE IS ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT. IF YOU WISH TO PROVIDE CONFLICTING "EVIDENCE", OR DISAGREE WITH MINE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO, WITH ADEQUATE SPECIFICITY, OR RETORT WILL BE VIEWED AS INVALID. IF YOU DO PROVIDE EVIDENCE ON WHICH YOU BASE YOUR BELIEFS, I WILL SELECT SPECIFIC PARTS THAT I DISAGREE WITH, AND GIVE YOU REASONS AS TO WHY I DISAGREE WITH SAID EVIDENCE, OR COUNTER ARGUMENT.
for sake of emotion, imagine the warning as devoid of tone as possible, like a robot. But please read it. I'm not taking you very seriously, because you just haven't backed up anything you believe, so if anybody is making WILD, BASELESS ASSUMPTIONS, IT'S YOU FOR NOT BACKING THEM UP WITH EVIDENCE. SAUCE MAN! SAUCE! if you're not going to reply with a link, to something backing up what you believe, DON'T BOTHER, YOU'RE A SILLY PERSON EVADING REAL DISCUSSION. MESSY, HUMAN DISCUSSION. IT'S NOT ALL CLEAN CUT AND PROPER LIKE YOU'RE IMAGINING IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. WE DISAGREE, IT WILL GET MESSY, STOP CRYING ABOUT IT AND SEND ME A LINK! YOU'RE 2 BEHIND!