A surgeon that knowingly ignores his or hers limits and performs a procedure anyway is culpable because they've been negligent.

You you can't see that someone who knowingly drives while endangering others because they are incapable, and kills someone is not culpable?

If the DMV gave you your license, you're good enough to drive.

Oh fuck you liar. What a corrupt load of bullshit, I would expect nothing less from someone who said "followed all the rules", you're just exposing your reddit-disease now.

We can't draw lines on what constitutes a good driver and what constitutes a bad driver, just what constitutes a good-enough driver.

We absolutely can, what you mean is, it's beyond your abilities to create such a criteria or test.

Good enough? So you don't care that some people expend more energy reducing the risk to pedestrians and others expend less energy / have less capacity to reduce the risk to others / pedestrians?

You don't think this inability makes them culpable the same as a surgeon?

You're just asking for society to forgive stupidity as it's not a choice, perhaps because you're worried you'll lose your ability to say "it was an accident, I didn't mean it".

Everytime you get in your car you roll the dice with the life of other people. Even good drivers.

What are you talking about? That's my point. Now you're just reversing things I say back to me. Yes, good drivers put people at risk, bad drivers put people in more significant risk - now you have to tell me why that is fair and why some people are allowed that privilege of pushing more risk on to others.

I think intentions play a big role in deciding culpability.

Intentions play a role in what they are guilty of, let's not muddy this - if you try and kill someone, that's one thing, I am saying, given two drivers, one kills someone because they are just incapable of controlling the car, the other is, so they don't kill someone. The reason the person isn't able is they are too stupid, haven't decided to learn to swim, haven't decided to exercise their fine motor skills, have poor hand eye coordination.

You don't see the significance of hand / eye coordination here? If someone CHOOSES not to have good hand-eye coordination, and someone DIES because of that, how do you not see the parallel to a surgeon choosing to operate outside their comfort zone and killing someone. The risks are raised in both cases. So, not just why, but now you have to tell me why they are distinct point C.

How do you know if you're a good or bad driver?

Why does knowing if you're bad make a difference? Sincere question, I'd like to know what you have to say about this.

So, I look forward to learn what you think of Point C and why you think the person has to be self aware.