still missing my point. i’m not saying i disagree with you, but i know many people who used to work there and the representatives were incredibly hateful to staff for telling them to wear jackets. some staff didn’t even care about the rule, they were just doing their job. this continuous disrespect wasted a lot of time on discussion and takes up valuable time with meetings behind the scenes that the public isn’t privy too. if they really true cared about their constituents, they’d throw on a jacket so they could focus on their constituents. or on the other hand, they’d go against to take a stand and make a change. but i PROMISE you that they weren’t doing it for that, they’re doing it because they think they’re above it and rules don’t apply to them. also, many of the women don’t want to wear them to show off tops or dresses underneath. like truly that was their justification. also, this time was set aside to debate rules. this happens every GA. they were within their duties to do it, they shouldn’t be focusing on it and disregarding the rules at any other time…which they have been doing in past years

i appreciate your martyr outlook but sometimes it’s not about making change or standing up for women, it’s about being selfish and having a nasty attitude. i would be more than happy to give names and site specific situations! Mary Elizabeth Coleman is one, i promise you she wasn’t doing it to take a stand for women

also, you’re having the exact reaction they wanted. i am literally a democrat and a strong pro choice advocate. to compare clothing standards at work to forcing a woman to have a baby isn’t even remotely they same thing. if men wore their ties around their ankles and their suit jackets wrapped around their waists, there would be an amendment to the rules.

i don’t need your history on the layout of the House. yes, i know men have had a majority and they had a heavier hand in making them but they’re about as equal as they can be. they equalized it in regard to the rule, not to what you or i may agree with in terms of what is work appropriate. like i said, i wouldn’t care if my representative was naked. but the men abide by the rules there, the women should too without inflicting it on those who didn’t have a say. it isn’t like they’re saying women can only have so long of a skirt. you should pull up the rules, they’re pretty simple and have very few specifications. the burqa argument has some merit, but tone deaf to compare an issue as vital and as problematic as that to MO House rules. slippery slope method was your form of lodging there…similar to how you brought up abortion. a dem representative said on the floor during the rules debate that a man told her her outfit was inappropriate, that was an incredibly shitty thing for him to have done. i feel for her but again, situations like that don’t deal with the rules. nothing about specific lengths or tightness of an outfit. plus, this amendment was made by a woman (albeit republican but still a woman and her opinion is just as important)

i do agree with your sentiment wholeheartedly and i wish professionalism didn’t rely on clothing but this rule was made because of the disgusting attitudes and the disrespect of the rules that THEY voted on. idc if republicans or men have had more of a say (i mean i do and it’s sucks that’s the case) but as a member of the House, they shouldn’t be taking it out on staff when they know it’s the bodies fault. it’s very telling when people think making a point like that is worth more than just putting it on and doing your job. before hearing what i heard and honestly seeing certain things with my own eyes, i would have the same reaction as you. not everything needs to be turned into this huge cry for social justice. if they were policing other aspects, then yeah for sure, but being upset over this is truly why nothing EVER gets done these days. i hate republicans, especially Missouri ones, but this shit isn’t where people should be getting mad