no, i'm stating that they were more likely to influenced by the cultures they actually lived in than cultures that existed a few thousand years prior,
So they just stopped cold turkey and waited for a few thousands of years to start up the later religions and did not just evolved into it?
in another part of the world, that were extinct and basically lost to history at the time.
really? Even the bible talks about the pagan religions around them for Pete's sake, man, get a grip on your sources.
christians today have the internet at their disposal. they can read all kinds of things about history, and other cultures. christians in the first century CE did not.
Yeah, exactly my point, story's from another part of the world might get a trading boom, and a release of culture is flown on, then depending on how it evolve with factors like "what happen the the mother country/culture" or "how isolated is the place" and many factors that led up to this. If they had the internet they would be a lot less mixed up, or atleast for a long period of time.
correct, and you can see stories drift from akkad into canaan into israel, over time. what you don't see is first century christians just copying down an egyptian myth, and changing the names.
Have you ever played telephone? Because that's pretty much what it is, bits and pieces get changed each time.
it's not any more special. i just don't think that it's particularly productive to make shit up about where it came from. it's much more interesting to examine, say, christianity within the contexts of memra/logos theologies of hellenistic judaism in the first century. you know, the similar ideas held by people of the same culture, at the same time.
Oh yeah, the work of archeologists and other fields of research that spent their life's on compelling evidence is pointless.
it's much more interesting to examine, say, christianity within the contexts of memra/logos theologies of hellenistic judaism in the first century. you know, the similar ideas held by people of the same culture, at the same time.
I was talking about the story, not the religion, and still, even Judaism is a victim of it, let alone Christianity. But yes, while we were off the traces, that's a branch that also should be looked at, and I never said that we shouldn't, I'm saying it's a lot more compelling then the book's explanation.
i have looked into it, evidently a lot more than you have. most of these "similarities" you see acharya citing are easily dispelled in seconds with wikipedia. was isis a virgin? no. was horus born on dec 25th? no. was jesus born on dec 25th? no. did horus lead an earthly ministry with 12 disciples? no. when you read the details of these stories, things do not line up very well at all. for instance, the "virgin" birth in the horus narrative is because isis resurrected osiris, but couldn't find his penis, so she made him a golden dildo, and impregnated herself by having sex with him. what's worse is that the resurrection similarity also comes from osiris, because some later cultures conflated osiris and horus (and ra), both being sky deities. this story is literally taken out of context two different ways. neither is particularly like jesus at all.
I never said any of those things, I have researched it, too, so I KNOW those things. That's why I said they sort of cherry picked a few things into the story of others and crok pot'd from isolation from the mother culture, and you will end up with pretty much a cultural wide game of (fucked up( might I add)) telephone.
no, there are flood myths all over the planet. humanity gravitated to sources of water during our evolution, and the first civilizations grew up around rivers. this is to be expected.
I was talking more about the eastern eruoasia and Africa where civilization is at it's roots or the Abrahamic religion region, but if you want to count North America or some thing irrelevant right now, that's fine.
Exactly, they started in Africa and the Middle East, and that is where the Abrahamic religions started, so it would be common to mix story's and cultures, like pagan religions would affect each other, forming j