Look, we're not going to agree, but I'd like to point out, the study you linked was on mice. You know as well as I do especially when it comes to cancer (think the utter disaster that was the saccharin study) rodents are not the best for extrapolating human results.

But as I originally said, it's also well known as a food for reducing sex drives. (Hell, from what I recall, it was (is?) heavily consumed by monks for that exact purpose).

And the people it's supposedly helping, other than that 1996 study, are they controlling for menopause status? If I recall, supplementing estrogen is good post-menopausal but bad pre (or reversed, I forget which), so controlling for age wouldn't isolate that variable directly.

Look, as I said earlier, none of this matters to me specifically, I have progressed to zero carb, so soy in any form is not an acceptable food no matter what. I can't eat it if it's the worlds healthiest bean, or one that would kill you in one. So if this is just going to be us chucking studies at each other, what do you say we just drop it and move on?