Kingrap1441 Hi. Couldn't address the facts and as typical male you resorted to demean me so as no matter how wrong your are you don't have to prove or put an effort into finding facts. You learnt from ewk and your weak male culturally mind formed mind gravitates to ignorance. Fact are facts Zen is all male created idea. Males created all early languages and so glad your man words look shaky to your mind of his. Why are you on an all male sub? My logic is right and what mind makes you think your mind of his is right. You say you are here to know mind and it seems you fail miserable.... now down vote drink booze slap a woman and starve a child is what drugs and boozers do ... Facts lot of gamme errors for your bieaed mind