I understand how that works. It's still speculative.

'still speculative' lol dude come on, you tried to cite a number you and i both KNEW was bogus and when i give you real science its 'still speculative'? you're not being serious

No one with a brain cares about deaths anyway.

that is a HELL of a goalpost move. probably one of the biggest I've seen.

if its about ICU beds, why is there a refusal to acknowledge acquired immunity from anything but the vaccine? i could show you a paper that proves people who recovered from covid actually have BETTER immunity to variants than people who got jabbed.

also, having sufficient vitamin D levels reduces ICU risk by up to 80%. i could show you that paper too. why is there no push for vitamin D either?

and lets not get into the obesity discussion

I'm not sure why you're even in a 'conspiracy' forum when you're defending the most obvious gov/pharma psyops, you'd really be more at home at /r/politics