We admit it. We're a creepy internet cult.

Oh, good times.

This dude wanders all over his own argument, losing track of the point several times; arguing with it has to happen in several parts, I guess.

First he presents positive characteristics - conscientiousness, empathy, firmness, self-mastery, sincerity - as some sort of mythical constellation of traits that are impossible to live up to. The subtext seems to be that this is an idol of manhood erected by women that cannot ever exist and destroys those who aspire to it.

He talks about the ' mythical mix of alpha and beta traits' as if it were some kind of chemical reaction that never occurs in nature, without considering that his pigeonholing philosophy might in itself be dividing people up in unrealistic ways that really belong in a cartoon.

No one is all of those things all the time. A woman who really expects a human being to always be hot, compassionate, calm, expressive, thoughtful, kind and brilliant watches too much TV and is up for a fall, and frankly so is this fellow; no one is perfect, no one's claiming that's reasonable or expected, and he's making an epic strawman argument to complain that that's what women - or any realistic person - expects.

Setback and frustration and anger and hate visit every single one of us. Men and women alike go through the trials of living and learning, we all make mistakes and sometimes we make really terrible mistakes, but to give up on the traits he presents as impossible is a kind of resignation to one's own lowness or failure.

No one is always good or wise, but a moral compass exists to guide your decisions and help you remember that compassion is important and preferable to cruelty. No one is always brilliant, but you try to make good decisions as much as you can. No man loves all the women in his life all the time, and he damn well shouldn't, no one should consistently subvert themselves to others either for acceptance or in service to some idea of superiority. We do the best we can.

Your problem arises when you cuddle yourself up to your failures and an internalized idea of worthlessness or superiority, and stop being willing to be sincere at all. Aside from the effect on others in your life it's a fast track to a very bad internal situation.


For instance, I have to say that I like how this dude wants to start out sounding reasonable -

Here’s the deal: Women are not your enemy. They are not the other team. They are not against you. They are not trying to exploit you or manipulate you. They’re just out for themselves, same as you.

-- and soon enough dissolves into a blubbering wad of hate and resentment, completely losing track of what he was trying to say in the process.

they’re definitely not on your side either. They’re not your friends, they’re not your confidants, they’re not your safe havens, they’re not your respite. Not even your wife or girlfriend. She’s not on your side either.

Do you know why women watch Jerry Springer, reality TV, Judge Judy, and whatever the fuck else is out there airing the dregs of humanity, while reading tabloids explaining in graphic detail how celebrities and the royal family are every bit as fucked up and human as we are? Because people like seeing weakness in others. It makes them feel better about themselves without having to make any effort to actually be better.

When your woman is feeling low, she’ll try to access your “human” side, whether that’s trying to make you angry, trying to make you sad, trying to make you horny, trying to make you apologize or admit something – she wants you to reveal a chink in your armor, because she feels bad about herself and needs you to look more human so she knows she’s still good enough for you. That chink in your armor means she still has some control over you.

It’s a difficult and misleading situation, because she likes to feel that way. It makes her feel good, even happy for a bit. And you care about her, so you want her to feel good and happy for a bit. And you want to open up a little bit for her and let your guard down a bit, because it feels good to be accepted and validated.

But The Red Pill figured out something that you don’t want to accept--The hardest part of this whole thing for you to swallow: Affection is not the same thing as attraction. Women don’t want to fuck weak men, even if they like them. They say they do – hell, just look around Reddit. Reddit is apparently the single largest bastion of special snowflakes in the world. If you take women at their word, Reddit’s chock-full of women with exceptionally high libidos who soak through their panties every five minutes thinking about their skinny, laid back, underachieving, nerdy, overemotional boyfriends that can barely keep up with them sexually.

'Women don't want to fuck weak men'.

No, angry little man who hides his face in his armpit, who's given up on ever being good, I would guess most women who come to know you don't want to fuck you, especially when you've painted your own black hate over all our faces, the better to confront it without admitting you were the one harboring that hate all along.

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