"Every single cause championed by liberals is based on a fake story. They make up events that didn't happen and get apoplectic over things that never will happen. The definition of "liberal" is quickly becoming: people who believe their fantasies should be facts."

See that's not doing a litmus test on what is good for the country. That is politicians buying >votes. A politician promises you one thing that you want and then does ten things that set >you back further than where you are. It shouldn't be about yourself, it should be about the >country.

Whoever said anything about politicians not pandering for votes? It is practically a requirement for the job. If a Republican politician goes to his base and thumps against gay marriage even if he doesn't particularly care himself, he is doing the same as a Democrat saying that he will fight for the rights of gay people to marry even if he has no skin in the game. You can't really blame people for looking for politicians who will represent them. As for politicians screwing you despite their rhetoric, I'm not sure what the point you were trying to make is, but voting them out of office already exists as a mechanism to deal with that problem. And unless you are arguing that gay marriage is bad for the country, which is a something of a divisive statement, I'm not really sure that that has to do with the topic at hand.

The healthcare costs issue is not for some people it is for all people. Before, you could find a >plan that fit your needs and pay for that. Now I am paying for things that I will never need or >use. Our rates didn't increase one time in 7 years, and in an 18 month span quadrupled after >ACA was set into motion. See, there is a lot of bullshit out there to get you to like the idea. >Problem is it is made up and that is what this thread is about.

If you are being negatively affected by the ACA, you have my sympathy. That you went seven years without an increase at all is unusual. I said before that I don't know any of your particulars and can't really comment on why it increased so drastically. In addition to the higher standards of care required under the ACA, maybe your employer started to pass more costs on to you. I couldn't really tell you. What I can say is that the number of people who were previously without healthcare and who are currently insured has increased significantly While the ACA is far from what I would have liked to see, I think that in this case even what I consider mediocre improvement is better than letting a system that both the left and the right considered broken fester indefinitely.

I'm glad that we managed to find some middle ground on the last two points: most TV news is dross regardless of their particular echo chamber and that the government was right to pass legislation that limited the exploitative practices which encouraged tax dodging.

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