Everyone thinks im a retard

yeah dude first of all those conditions still very much apply. lol. animals, winter, hunger and thirst still very much exist haha and they arent going anywhere any time soon.

They do, yes - if you choose to face them. Doing so is no longer a necessity, and thus no longer the sole circumstances of survival. Why, then, would you judge a person based on their ability to prevail under that specific set circumstances?

you havent outsmarted me lol, youve sold your soul and become a slave, thats all. youve given up your self and your individuality for a little security and then hunted down the types like me because youve got an innate resentment for us.

Have I? You seem to view society as a binary option - either I'm a drone shackled to my hive and its rules, or I'm... Well, you. Couldn't it just as well be framed as a simple matter of moderation? I could accept some limitations of your view of the system (e.g. Traffic laws), yet reject others (e.g. Office drone life, Kardashian culture), or would the acceptance of any benefits immediately taint p the legitimacy of my claim to life? If so, why?

yeah, youve survived, but not on your own and thats the point. your life is a hell and even if you dont realize it, its clear to someone like me who doesnt deal with that horseshit. yeah, maybe im on here venting about some gripes i have with a world that has gone to shit and hates me, but you know, my shit is intact. im not making my own problems in my own head, you know? they are very real world disturbances which cause my problems. point being that my headspace would be fine if the beehive wasnt out hunting me.

What kinds of things do I struggle with that you don't?

on the otherhand, slave life is inherently awful and full of shame and guilt (i recommend doing a quick google search for 'shame societies' and then 'guilt societies' as those are massive methods of control for the slaves / beehive workerbees).

You're assuming a binary vision again - life is not black and white, nor does my consideration of a system inherently render me its slave, whether in mind or in body.

you arent gonna fool me with this shit bro. these are not equal parts. this is not 'well, im surviving too and we are beating you blah blah'. the reason being because even though it sounds competitive to you at first sight. the competition between organisms is not necessarily competitive from a selfish point of view, you know?

As I said, I was merely trying to assume your view and argue within that assumption. Your arguments have been very charged with competitive sentiments, so that's how I colored my speech.

we are all in this soup together. we all share the same vested interest in the future or organic life on this planet, as when we die, our bodies go back into the earth, and presumably possibly recycled at some point. and hell, even if we arent, we still may have some altruistic interest in the proper perpetuation of the species for future generations.

Sounds very moderate for someone who claims to hate the world.

you are building a shit-life. you are building a forced existence where people will survive, but be miserable and never really live. thats why when people like me come on and say 'this bullshit is unnatural' but nobody cares its like man, dont you realize what you are doing to the world?

What would you consider "really living"? Our world is headed towards a future in which mankind will be free of all clerical obligations and be free to pursue whatever interests might spark a light. You idealize freedom and autonomy, so why oppose a world that embodies those concepts?

i promise you, i am NOT making that up or even trying to blow my own horn, only making the point that WE ALL WANT TO BE FREE AND AUTONOMOUS even if the weak folks RESENT THE FREE AND AUTONOMOUS SO THEY HAVE TO PAINT THEM AS 'BAD' OR 'NEGATIVE' SOMEHOW.

I don't care whether you're making this up, I'm just enjoying the ride.

That said, couldn't you turn this exact statement around on you? You've been painting everyone opposing your view as "weak", "bad", and "negative", while glorifying your personal view.

If delusion is how the weak cope with those that expose them for who they are, then could it not also be how you cope with a system that considers you worthless? At the very least, you acknowledge the possibility, correct?

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