Is it just me, or is Sanders everywhere in time but the here and now?

Syria, Libya, Iraq (again) Egypt. All these states had huge problems develop without the U.S. Doing shit.

I'm so sick of the left pretending the Middle East would be puppies and flowers without the U.S. It's frankly racist as it assumes the people living there rely on western actors for their abilities to do anything. Have you given a though for one second that the "stability" the dictators and kings brought to the region for so long, wasn't stability at all? When you shoot your people into submission enough, problems happen. And all these problems blew up and everyone is scrambling to find ways to blame the us, Russia, Europe, China, anyone besides the natives. Of course you have to, because the narrative of the Middle East being stable without outside destabilization falls apart when you accept the locals just finally got fucking sick of being shot and killed by iron fisted tyrants.

The Iraq war didn't cause instability in the region. It simply dragged everything into the lime light. Consider this. Iraq pre-invasion attacked 3 of its 6 neighbors, attacked a fourth country in the region, and was responsible for an least a million deaths. That's not stability.

Sanders is going to be in for a very rude and very YUGE awakening when he gets into office, try's out isolation for 4 years, and wakes up to find the Middle East still a huge mess, God knows how many people dead, and probably a new Russian empire choke holding a chunk of the region.

And you know what. I could forgive him for all of that. If Russia wants a new play ground and sanders is cool with cozying up to tyrants whatever. We have our own country. I can't forgive him through for how he will close his eyes and ignore the countless dead. He wants a political revolution, but won't lift a finger to try to save literally 100s of thousands of lives in the Middle East. Disgusting.

So yea. We desperately need more Meddling. Because while you might have deluded yourself into believing there was this time of peace in the Middle East, the numbers don't lie. More people have died in the Middle East during the Obama years than during the bush years.

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