I was unaware that he was serving a life sentence. There goes kidnapping him then, sigh. The apple didn't fall far from that tree, apparently. If they could put him into a drug induced 'truth serum' type hypnosis, they should do it. As long as there are independent witnesses to the whole thing and a qualified medical person(s) on board and present, they should do it. He's forfeited any right to cry 'human rights abuse.' As far as the whole kidnapping him thing goes, I was thinking more of psychological torture. Not actually using said tools on him, just showing them to him, cleaning them in front of him, cutting up a couple of wooden boards to test 'how sharp the blade is' kind of stuff. When you lay a couple of very sharp instruments on a table in front of someone tied to a chair, I imagine you wouldn't actually have to use them if you built up the anticipation of what's coming enough. Leave them in the room for an hour on their own, in the dark, with a light shining from overhead on that tray of shiny, pointy metal things. I don't think you'd have to actually hurt him physically to get to the truth. He's a coward and was bred from a coward.

Like when you were a kid, and you knew you were in shit and your mom said - 'wait until your father gets home. Go to your room and wait.' My dad used to make me wait for hours. I would hear his car pull up, and he'd walk past my door on his way to do other stuff. I was sweating frikking bullets. He didn't knock on my door though, I was left to stew. The waiting is so much worse than the eventual hiding you got. So much worse.

I don't condone torture. In this case though, in light of all the people's lives that have been forever blighted by these losses, I do condone scaring the ever living shit out of anyone who could give information as to what really happened, and directions to where their loved one's remains were left, so that they can be recovered and give peace. I'm not sure the word 'closure' is the right one, I'm not sure something like that is ever 'closed'. It can start a healing process though. The families concerned aren't asking for much, they just want their daughters back. I keep mentioning this case on Reddit because I don't want them to be forgotten. Never that. Wherever they are, may God have mercy on their souls. I send my best thoughts to their families. I can't imagine.