"Normal" relationship expectations are insane.

You just want to bs the person that you want it from. Don't tell someone you want to build a friendship but what you really want is just sex.

When did I say that? I've repeatedly made the point that fwb only works if we're actually real-life friends first. Otherwise, sure, it's a big fat lie.

Don't lump me in with bullshitters. I'm only comfortable sleeping with friends, because it is a matter of trust. I trust my friends. I don't trust strangers.

This is the point I keep trying to make, so thank you for giving me another example. You've projected your view of fwb on me, when it does not apply.

I want friends. I like friends. At my age, friends are hard to come by, so each one is very important to me. I want to build friendships, sex or no sex, because friendship isn't real if it's just someone taking advantage of someone else. That's not what friends do.

Telling me I'm lying because you can't consider the possibility that I'm telling the truth is exactly what I'm pushing back on. It seems like most people have it in their heads that someone interested in fwb is lying about wanting to be friends.

But you know what the real lie is? Someone telling another that they love them (when they don't) and want to commit to them (when they won't). And everyone brushes it off as "oh well, that's relationships! what else can you do?"

I'm here saying "be friends first, to make sure you don't get lied to." But I'm the bad guy because no one believes in the power of friendship.

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