[Rant] "Then just don't have sex if you can't accept the consequences!"

it is an accident, but it is a predictable accident. It is one of the risks of using such a saw.

Yes but using a saw will not always result in such an outcome, Whereas overeating will always result in an undesired outcome with no exceptions.

As for the speeders, how would you determine if they had a valid reason for speeding PRIOR to taking life saving measures?

No idea, its not like im actually enforcing what im suggesting? I just dont think that if someone causes themselves an illness or something along the lines, they shouldnt be getting treatment - or at the very least it should not be covered by anyone, not insurances and not by NHS like systems either. - this by the way is how you could punish speeders who live but we cant figure out instantly whether or not they had a reason to speed.

This is also completely inapplicable to fats as in absolutely every case of a morbidly obese person, we know they overate and caused their own situation, There is absolutely no way they got fat otherwise.

You seem to think obese people are somehow shirking reaponsibility by not dying. I disagree with this, as they still pay a heavy price, even if we dont enforce a death sentence. A woman who can not walk up a flight of stairs isnt getting off Scot free because we didnt let her die.

Oh yeah she cant walk up a flight of stairs, so isntead we will make people build ridicolous chairs into buildings that drag them up, Or worse - have in-home nurses drag their fat asses.

ANd what about the fact that a fatty will take a good dozen people/nurses to even MOVE them, whereas a fit person would require 1-2? this is 10-11 people who could be attending to other patients who did not eat themselves half to death. And why are we paying for fucking bariatric surgery? they can lose weight by not eating - and this is again done while wasting a surgeons time, Who could be attending to someone more worthy. They cannot even fucking wipe their (literally) shitty ass. AND ON TOP OF THIS they apply for disability and actually get it.

They are literally not responsible for themselves. its time to start making them responsible for their own fucking health. If you were born with diabetes? Sure lets treat you the best we can. but if you GAVE yourself diabetes? WHY should i help you? Youre not even gonna stop eating less so why?

You are also making a massive assumption that obese people are unable or unwilling to make a change when provided with proper education and medical care.

That must be why most patients who underwent bariatric surgery balloon right back up, why 70% of america is fat, why 65% of UK is fat.... If they are so able and willing to change, Why are they all so fat? no education or medical care? They CONSTANTLY use medical care, and every endocrinologist (who they must meet if they want treatment for their diabetes) will tell them to lose weight, which they will ignore - they also tell fats how to lose weight as well - eat less. OH education? Well, Its pounded into your head from middle school that if you overeat you will be fat. what more fucking education do they need?

The solution to the obesity epidemic, and the healthcare costs it burdens us with, is education, social programs, and better access to preventative care. Not "lol the landwhale made its bed, let it die".

I Dont know, "lol the landwhale made its bed, let it die" would solve the obesity epidemic as well. there is no obesity epidemic if there are no landwhales.

and no, your solution is not actually better - because they wont lose weight and will continue how they are now, So what you're doing is making programs that will waste money as those who are using them arent actually following them. the cheapest cost effective method is simply not treating those who literally made their bed. no one made them do it? its their fault, we dont have to save them from their darwin award constantly.

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