The Salty Sea! - Best Anime Couples/Ships - ROUND 5, BRACKET FINALS A-H

I really don't get the " DOMESTIC VIOLENCE " tsundere hate on r/anime, towards Taiga or many of the other characters I adore.

Whether you're talking about newer tsunderes (Kirino) older (Taiga) to decades old (Naru)... A well done tsundere character only starts as these traits everyone seems to have problems with. Usually because of some sort of previous loss, and the hostile exterior is like a coping mechanism for them.

While they do show some of that infantile violent side later in each series, it becomes very rare after the audience witnesses these characters maturing over time (what "Naru" even means -- "to become") to move past all their can't-be-honest-about-their-feelings cruel treatment. That "growing up" process is very real to me -- who wasn't immature at some point in their lives? (if not these points shown to the audience -- middle school or early high school, in the most popular criticized examples.)

It's what makes a lot of those shows special to me -- not having an unbelievable flawless lead who is already more mature than most adults when supposedly 12 years old, rather, a process about watching flawed characters shed their defense and coping mechanisms.

The trope in general has been over-played and is somewhat annoying in quite a few examples from more recent shows... But the series that seem to get to the most slack for these types of character development processes always seem to be about the un-developed characters (and how nothing ever changes... which isn't true, and neglects the parts of the characters I, and many others, happen to love.)

Labeling both the female characters to being "instigators of domestic violence" and the male characters to "victims of domestic abuse" are really belittling narrow-minded arguments, which makes me feel like the people who go along with these statements missed the entire point of these characters/romances. (like... every single one of those female/male leads growing up into a better person, who doesn't do this stuff everyone band-wagons about hating -- that's... kind of the entire tsundere character development process in the first place...)

If you genuinely prefer Yukinon/8man (which will probably win, regardless)... that's fine! But the "vote against the horribly abusive never-changing tsundere bitch" thing we've had throughout these rounds has just gotten annoying already. It's basically not appreciating or understanding the fundamentals behind each character/romance in the first place.

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