[serious] Australians that were around in 1996 when guns were outlawed, what was your experience? Were there protests? What was it like if you owned a gun? How did you feel about the removal of guns?

Fuck, I get the due process argument but at least the republicans are considering a court ordered ban on legal sales to people under investigation.

Have you read the NRA's position on this? I'm not an NRA member because I think much of the organizations rhetoric is over the top, but their stance on this issue is pretty reasonable. It's leadership supports the idea of preventing people on the no-fly list from purchasing weapons assuming the government were to put in place a reasonable and transparent method for those who are on the list to challenge their status. According to Motherjones.com:

The NRA is instead focused on pushing for a way to remove people more easily from watchlists. "Due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed," the group wrote in the statement. The NRA argues that people on watchlists often wrongly end up there because of broad and secretive standards, and it's able to call on unusual allies to help make that case. The ACLU and the Council on American Islamic Relations are two other prominent organizations that agree with the NRA's stance on civil liberties grounds.

I've heard it said that when the NRA and the ACLU are in agreement on a given subject the rest of us should sit up and pay attention.

Ultimately, I don't view gun control as the solution to the problem of gun violence in America. There are societies around the world with high gun ownership rates that don't experience anywhere near the level of gun violence as we do here in America. That tells me the problem isn't guns. I don't know what it is, but I don't think it's guns. (Again, I realize my emotional investment may be clouding my judgement in this area, but I'm open to hear any ideas.)

Additionally, America has 200+ years experience with prohibiting things and activities that its citizens desire; as far as I know it's never gone well. I would expect any attempt at mass, involuntary confiscation to go very badly.

At any rate, this has gotten much longer than I intended, but I think it's good when people on the opposite sides of an argument have a chance to discuss a subject rationally, honestly and with the hope of actually finding a solution. I hope I've helped you better understand where people like me are coming from.

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