3. TIL French toast is older than France.

TIL French toast is older than France.

Really? He held the same position (President of the United States) as the leader of the US today, was considered the ruler of the same country, ruled from the same capital city, created the constitution which we still hold today as the golden law of the land, and there is nothing similar between George Washington and today's America?

Those are not items/artefacts. Yes washington wasn't using "cultural artefacts" we identify as american.

Now if your criteria is same position as leader (president), same constitution, etc. etc.

Then the beginning of France is no sooner than 1789 and possibly after WWII.

If it's rule ofer the same country then France began with Clovis I.

my reference to "Modern France" is more accurately stated as "Capetian France." and the actual country of France whe n it first appeared.

So you mean when the name "France" was first used. The change of name had little significance, and it certainly didn't correspond to a new country appearing.

You have to explain that one since I don't follow your logic.

Well, the logic is simple. Sure there was a major change during the Merovingian, when the empire was split.

It isn't absurd to consider, that this correspond to a change of country. BUT ONLY, if you use extremly weak critera to consider something as a new country : something like considering Russia didn't exist before the fall of the URSS.

But the problem here with such weak criteria, is that the country the capetian ruled is not the same as current France.

Because what happened with french revolution, and the beginning of the XIX century is more disruptive that what happened with the merovingian.

It's the french revolution that really cemented the identity of the french.

Charlemagne and Napoleon were both ruler of "Francia" that build an european empire that was divided between members of their familly.

Napoleon disolved the holy roman empire. He created the "royaume des belgiques" that became belgium, Luxembourg, and the netherlands. The separation between "west/middle/east" francia was never settled before that.

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