The VLog Brothers - Is the Gender Pay Gap Real?

It's interesting to me that despite the fact that this is a really great video about a topic that this community is very interested in, almost no one here is actually discussing the video. 99% of the comment section here is just complaining about the comment section of the video. (I mean at the time of posting this, literally everything aside from one singular post is just about their comment section.)

The reason I'm saying that is because as a pretty neutral person on the whole gamergate thing, I wanted to come to a place like this for actual discussions of these issues, but it seems you don't even care to discuss them all that much, you mostly care about discussing how terrible other people are (which is what I was hoping isn't the case, when I came here.)

Anyway, to move on to the actual video: it's very good, albeit lacking anything new, it was definitely something that viewers of the previous video needed to hear. One thing I didn't like is the instant jump from "we can't explain this through anything we tested" to "it is a result of discrimination" about the last 4~8%, because it has been proven that men are more likely to bargain aggressively for their pay and promotion, for instance. I am not in any way denying that it's problematic, and that we should be trying to understand how to fix it, but perhaps the answer to some of this stuff is teaching our girls that it's okay for women to be aggressive and forward, which is something society doesn't do a very good job of. I mean, society arguably teaches girls the exact opposite -- that it's not okay for them to be aggressive and forward about their wants/needs.

I also liked that John made it a point that we should be discussing these gender roles and why society perpetuates them, but didn't deny the legitimacy of some women's choice to be the primary house carer or to work in female-dominated fields. I am a believer that many women who chose these roles are empowered women who are able to choose their lives independently of what society expects of them, so I'm not sure a lack of women in engineering is a "problem" that needs to be solved. Regardless, it needs to be discussed and brought up, which is why I'm happy he did.

One thing that I think he should've clarified is the fact that the big disparity in housework didn't account for paid working hours, I am very interested to see whether the disparity remains in households where the women work equally or more hours than the men. I imagine the disparity remains, but I wonder if it would be as equally big. In general it's very difficult to discuss households like this, because while the women aren't technically earning money themselves, when one person works in the house it allows the other person to work more hours and earn more money for the entire household, which then belongs to the woman as much as it belongs to the man. In other words, I kind of feel like that disparity is a big mess that we need more information on before deciding what it means.

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