Will Hip Hop ever outstrip rock's blend of popular and critical success?

how is it not human to write about life on the streets

How is "wu tang clan ain't nothing to fuck wit" or M.E.T.H.O.D Man about street life?

A lot of rap music isn't about street life in a way that's meant to tell a personal struggle story, but an exploitation, a glorification, of some cartoonish fantasy world that doesn't exist. It's exploiting the extreme elements of what they grew up with to make shock music that's "cool".

There's a world of difference between "wu tang clan aint' nothing to fuck with" or "method man" and say.. Pac's Brenda's Gotta Baby. And more hip hop, when talking about street life - especially since the advent of gangster rap in the 90s - is far more fantasy, boasting, and exploitated tales of entertainment rahter than the story of a man's journey of that environment.

I think NWA - for instance, in some manners were kind of important. Using shock to make money, and say hey .. you white people can quarantine us in ghettos but we're going to be blaring our reality into your living rooms, was important. And there was a certain.. not entirely intellectual subversiveness to "fuck the police" that's still certainly relevant today.

But "She Swallowed It" isn't poetry, it's not some tale of growing up hard.

Dre and Cube and Eazy making up stories about gang raping a 14 year old preacher's daughter in the back of a car.. is that them just telling stories of what they did?

or is that just people trying to make absurd shit to get money?

There are some great hip hop songs that are honest and human about street life but they are far and few between all the gangster cartoons and empty caricatures and glamorizations of "thug life".

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