31 Days of Move Origins #11 - Black Gordman's DDT

The wiki article makes it clear that it's a common fallacy that Jake is the inventor. If you want to keep referring to the words of Jake himself as a valid source of speculation on if he actually did invent it then I know a muscle bound red and yellow clad orange brother who would like to share with you some attendance numbers from the Silverdome.

How? Explain to me how the article makes that fallacy clear when it links to two sources, one that says Jake invented it and one that says Gordman invented it. That's a link to each of two sides of the argument - and it's not like the argument for Gordman on a single, regional pro wrestling website is stronger than the one supporting Roberts. The Wikipedia article makes an assertion that a commonly held piece of knowledge is false and fails to back it up with a more definitive source than where that incorrect information comes from.

A Wikipedia article saying something is a misconception without linking to a source that corroborates that the statement it is in fact a misconception/false doesn't carry much weight when you consider that Wikipedia by itself isn't ultimately a reliable source because anyone can edit it.

With how widespread wrestling was in the territory days there is no way to say for 100 percent concrete certainty on how some of these early moves were first done. Without the age of camera phones and he internet Black could've seen some nobody in Little Rock do it once and stole it from him. All we can do is use the information and sources available to attribute it to what is the best guess.

Yes, it seems like you're getting my point. You shouldn't have definitively said Gordman invented it when you can't prove it. That's literally all I was trying to point out at first, but it seems like you fixated on the idea that I was saying you were wrong because Jake invented it, although I might be interpreting your words incorrectly.

If you're not trolling me i seriously don't see what the point any of this is.

My point is that you don't really seem to understand the difference between reliable and unreliable sources, the difference between stating something as generally accepted versus a definitive fact, the difference between me saying it's not clear who invented the DDT versus you thinking I'm saying Roberts definitely invented it.

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