Do 80s Slashers belong on “Greatest of All Time” lists

I understand why you're asking this. When I rank films it's hard to decide whether to rank them on how much you enjoy them or to try look at them critically/objectively and rank them on how good they 'actually' are. I adore many horror comedies, slashers and low budget gore flicks. These sort of films don't often rank on 'best ever' lists.

I lean towards ranking them based on personal preference. Why list a film high up because everyone else says it's great when you don't care for it ? Also vice-versa, why rank a film you adore low down just because others consider it a bad/cheap movie ?

Most best ever lists are hugely flawed in that;

  • They heavily favor films of a certain time period. Most top 10s on these lists are exclusively from 1968-1982, a fifteen year time period. Psycho (1960) is often the only film to make the cut outside of these years. Were 9 of the 10 best horror films released in a 15 year time period ? I have my doubts.
  • They favor original films. Few sequels make the cut, Evil Dead II, Bride of Frankenstein, Dawn of the Dead are often the only ones.
  • Serious films you can often count the horror comedies on one hand, An American Werewolf in London, Shaun of the Dead & Evil Dead II to be specific. Why can't fun/entertaining films rank highly ?
  • Echo chamber effect. People when listing films take other lists into consideration, it becomes an echo chamber and is why the same films always dominate. A lot of people don't want to break the mould and list 'unpopular' films. It becomes a case of why bother? Most lists are so similar if you've seen one you've seen them all.
  • Popular vote. Just because a film is more popular/well known and has been seen by more people doesn't mean it's a better film. Halloween (1978) always features much higher than Black Christmas (1974). Halloween is a perenial top 10 placer whilst BC is very lucky to finish in the top 30 and it will often not even make a top 100. Halloween is my all time favorite film, but BC is very much in the same tier in my opinion. I feel a similar away about films like Eyes Without A Face and Black Sunday I think both of them are in contention for 'best horror film of 1960' along with Psycho, but Psycho always finishes higher because it's very popular.

One thing I've noticed is most of these lists have Friday the 13th (1980) on it, somewhere around 35th-80th. The thing is many F13 fans and slasher/horror fans in general prefer a number of the sequels (it seems you're the same, with part 2 being your favorite). I'd have parts 4, 2, 6 and maybe even 3 over the original.

So yeah, I say rank 'em how you like 'em. It's more interesting that way and your opinion is as valid as any other. For the record, when it comes to slasher films belonging on greatest of all time lists. My top 5 horror films are Halloween (1978), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974), Black Christmas (1974), A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) & Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (1984). All slashers.

So yeah, slash away my man.

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