This post (and almost the entire thread) is a plant.

These folks are in it for money. Spammy. Fuck all of them.

Not into AA dogma but it’s one of the best tools out there. Proven. For almost 100 years. There’s value in that.

Shame on these quacks for shitting on it relentlessly on multiple podcasts to sell a few books, ignoring the fact that how it came to be is separate from what it is and what it has accomplished.

If Mark and crew really want to be agnostic about things, great. Science first. But you can’t also discount the same scientific results that can be attributed to AA.

Freedom to choose your path? Absolutely! That includes leveraging the benefits of AA as well as whatever value someone might find in this misguided approach.

Attraction not promotion, y’all. WTF are you doing?

Sincerely, 3+ years