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The point is that you also seem to think that poor people should not be allowed to eat steak, which is ridiculous.

Where did I say that?

I am a libertarian but deeply sympathetic to the views of the Democratic Party and have a 100% record of voting for Democrats from the time I have become eligible. I grew up dirt poor, as did many of my friends around me. Most of us were lucky for having made it to the other side and maybe my views are colored by our collective experiences.

Here's the thing about steak. You can certainly find steak on sale. It's not impossible to find good deals on things people consider "luxury" items, but people like you have his idea that poor people shouldn't spend their money on things like this. Rich people splurge on things, middle class people splurge on things, and poor people splurge on things. The idea that poor people shouldn't enjoy something as simple as a steak from time to time makes you sound like a total asshole.

You have the criteria for splurging reversed. You are rich if you can splurge on expensive things and middle class if you can splurge on the small joys of life. You are poor if you cannot splurge. If someone else is going to be splurging on your behalf, good for you. You can even make splurging a conscious choice by saving up to indulge yourself in that steak you have been dreaming about since eternity but if you buy it as a spur of the moment decision, the that is not a wise choice for your own life.

When I was finally able to afford things, the first thing I splurged on was a full meal. Before then, my family and I survived on eating a banana for lunch and trying to make it to the next day. We never even considered going to a food bank or using food stamps, something that was well within our rights and a mistake on our part. Those days are in the distant past but never forgotten.

The poor or anyone else of course are entitled to steak or whatever else they want to eat. The question was not whether they should be eating steak but whether they should be paying for it from money essential for a daily existence. What I think is immaterial. After all, it is their money.

This is no different than me choosing to eat or ignore that sweet delicious donut, knowing I have a family history of diabetes and heart disease. Nothing stops me from buying and eating that donut but I am responsible for the consequences as well.

That's where you're wrong. It's OK if the person buying the steak OK with it. What you are truly advocating for here is that there should be a poor section of a supermarket where poor people can only buy things we find acceptable for their level of income. They shouldn't ever enjoy something as simple as a steak, they should ever buy what we decide

You are wrong here. Budget and financial responsibility is a real thing. Better to stop one before going too far.

Problem is many people are not taught financial literacy in school and do not have role models in their lives or someone to provide the emotional care and nurturing that is needed when one sees lack of hope and despair all around.

Financial independence and physical and emotional well being are a long and hard journey, not a video game where one can just have a save point and start over till they get it right.

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