No need for any apologies, you've been exceptionally uplifting to me and it has been a very rewarding conversation! It even helped me to widen my own perspective, so thank you and I'm sorry for any negativity I may have brought. Iron sharpens iron and all that, I think to be challenged and have such healthy discussion is one of the most valuable assets we can give ourselves. Please challenge my ignorances (there are plenty) and perspectives any time!

You know, since I ramble and go on so- I was just thinking one last thing.

As I can relate to your frustration when you read threads and are like JEEZE OPEN YOUR EYES! There are two people in the relationship.. (and the rest of our opinions on it). One thing I have to tone down in myself is a frustration I get when I am trying to help another or teach someone something I already understand or learned. Sometimes I get so frustrated and almost angry seeming... like "NO, gahh, look it is so bloody simple- here watch..." But I remember there was once a time I couldn't see or do it as well. Or at least look to comparisons in myself that I can relate to.

I'm not at all implying that you need to change that or are doing this here or elsewhere. I just wished to say that I can relate to feeling overwhelmed and frustrated that others cannot grasp something 'so simple' or something that would clearly help them, when I can so clearly see the answer. I think my frustration with others 'not getting it' stems from empathy for them (and was going bad with my own fragile arrogance). It's part of my 'fixer' streak, but I can't fix or change others and need to be patient and compassionate. Sometimes our lessons were hard won, we're all part of the human race, but we don't all run at the same pace. When I give myself time and failures to learn and grow, I have to expect others need the same (maybe they need a little more or less).