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Wrong again, I know one guy who uses macs for personal computing laptop. The rest (not hardcore gamers but developers) buy the best specced machine they can get for their particular budget (which I've seen range from low hundreds to over 6-7 thousand) and install some kind of linux distro and then have other OS's running in VM's if they need to test code/programs/modules in multiple environments.

BTW I also worked for Apple at the beggining of my career doing tech support for the CPU side, and let me tell you 95%+ of the people who had these computers were those who did not do development or any real computing. I had one guy call in who claimed to be a sysadmin, yet seemed to know nothing about networking, command line (be it powershell, bash, Zshell, or whatever), AD or anything else.

Not to say they're aren't a couple people out there who are using macbooks for their personal dev work, but let me tell you they are a small minority.

You're right in that windows prevalence isn't necessarily because its inherently awesome or anything (which it isn't it's ok for some things, terrible for a number, and excellent at a few others), however OSX isn't any better. I mean it's OOB command line is, but that's what cygwin is for.

If you want the best of both you would be running something like fedora or debian with a virtual box running windows so that you can run windows built tools out of it as well.

At no point does mac enter into it, unless the individual happens to be a fanboy. Otherwise you use the system that gets the work done, which is windows (insert edition here) or linux at the workstation level, and linux/sun/custom/hp/windows/etc at the server level.

That's why I said they're toys. I liked working with macs when I was working for apple because it was the whole environment, but that was helpdesk and is not by any means real computing. God would I never want to have to work exclusively in that environment, hell if someone handed me a brand new free mac book tomorrow I'd be grateful, and then I'd take it home wipe the drive and install debian.

I mean how can you seriously argue that macs are for development when they added Kekt signing to yosemite? That whole scheme has turned the OSX environ into a coders nightmare. The one guy I know who refuses to use anything but mac had to spend a week downgrading back to mavericks and then reinstalling all his macports stuff becaus kekt was that big a pain in the ass and there was (and still is to my knowledge) no way around it.

You seem know enough to make it seem to a layman like you know what your talking about, but you obviously do not have a grasp on the state of professional computing, devlopment, or the reason why macs are toys to 99% of computing professionals.