But I think we mostly agree. And it might be a personal level kind of disagreement on where we put the two on a list of bad things. But from my own personal perspective, having a chronic illness, the centrists have done everything to make Paul Ryan's position seem like an acceptable equally viable alternative solution. And the resulting impasse leads to people like me having spotty access to drugs and then living ironically too short a life to qualify for Medicare. Like I've known people with my condition who have upped and died at age 20 because they couldn't afford to see a doctor, never knew they had the disrase. Capitalism often displaces it's suffering out of the eyes of the dominators. It's exterminations happen far away and never get measured. There's hardly a survey attributing death to capitalism. And it's like we gotta ask ourselves how do we get these people out of the Pringles can?

I'm only saying this cause people are soft on the pundits. I'll agree that the boat owning racist middle class chuds are fucking worse, they are, they create a demand for the centrists to exist in the first place. They are petite bourgeoisie scum. But the working class chuds? Maybe not worse than centrists because they may be less ideologically permanent. Maybe a quarter or less can be peeled off, same goes with the centrists, but if you're gonna try with the centrists to get them to acknowledge that healthcare is a human right why not try to get racists to abandon their racism? The party platform

I'm not calling for trying to bring them in by telling them their worst views are ok and that they get a free pass for their racism. But being willing to fight with them over it could in the long run win. And acknowledging that centrist Dems are potentially as dangerous as wreckers as the chuds are is a fair point to make