Oh, we have all independently and together sat him down to talk about. We have approached it with understanding, wanting to talk about it, help him find resolutions.He stone walls, refuses, politely I should say, and we dont scream or threaten them and vice versa. We honestly want to help him. We love him. Im pretty sure he knows this. The schools (two now) have sat him down and explained this to him. He has already flunked out of one good school, gone to community college, and sat down and been told that he may be able to go to school there and still be on academic probation, but that he had to be handled directly with an advisor and couldnt choose his own classes or enroll on his own, that he had to do it with them, and he will fail out if he doesnt pass all his classes next year. This was done last week after the most recent suicide threat. He has refilled his scripts and set up appointments with his psych and therapist. He also did all of this the last two times. We do not threaten anything that we arent 100% sure to follow through on, not ever. It would be stupid. It would undermine our authority across the board. It would also provide a basis for his irresponsibility. We have made it clear that we cannot have him living with us if he doesnt have a full time job or go to school full time with a part time job. And we do mean it. And now he is suggesting he is looking for a full time job (which he hasnt said he isnt going to go to school, so we arent clear what he means) but we will follow through on it. We dont want to though. We want him to keep in college. But this isnt up to us. One way or another he is going to be stuck with the responsibility. We arent screaming yelling kinds of people. Well, his dad can raise his voice. But he doesnt threaten. I dropped out of college and married his dad after he dropped out of college. I did very very well in my career until I got sick and was disabled. His dad was a store manager, which tore up his body and caused all kinds of circadian problems with the hours. We want him to do something that makes him feel productive and that he feels he contributes in some way to society in a positive way. We also want him to have good friendships which he has strained severely. We get he is depressed. Its so hard to know where to push and how hard. And he is very stubborn and private.