We need to appreciate the fact that Spencer and Tasha both succeeded to get to the F3.

Savage - States its one of the hardest seasons of survivor and that getting to FTC is great in an allstar season and that most if not all votes are open according to him.

Focus on Jer and Spencer

Spencer arrogance is crazy and bad for Spencer. Spencer replies that arrogance is bad, hes been there before, he slipped back to being arrogant the night before where he told jermey to take him instead of Wentworth and that he regrets framing it in an arrogant way but he doesnt regret telling jer to take him

Savage states Jeremy skipping to vote Kimmi out was viewed similarily as poor sportsmanship on Jers part. Does Jer regret that. Jer responds with he didn't believe Kimmi was against him and when he found out, it was a "you dun goofed" type response and he was upset so he skipped over because his feelings were hurt and thats how he responded.

Tasha got no air time/question.

Point Jeremy IMO.

Fishbach - I Jeremy brought honour and integrity into a game where it didnt exist.

Asks tasha to defend her game play, tasha responds with shes a strong independent woman and that thats how she played and she got what she wanted.

Says spencer was seen as strategic and he was surprised at his willingness to use the "voting bloc's" and betray people. Spencer responds that he didnt have close relationships so he had to jump around and back stab people to get there and ruin relationships to get to ftc.

Jeremy always had Fischbach

Ciera - Says flippers rarely make it to the end and never win. States bloc's require flipping leaving the jury feeling betrayed. So why should flipping be rewarded this season.

Jeremy argues its a great season with great players so moving voting blocs was necessary.

Tasha argues it was the multiple swaps that forced her to flip to survive

Spencer says there were so many relationships, blocs were fluid and when he saw weakness in them, he had to exploit that which meant blindsiding social and physical threats so he could get to ftc.

Jeremy wins this arguement

Keith - Wants convincing of why the other front runner deserves to win and if you convince the other guy deserves to win, you win.

Jermey - Spencer played the middle ground well and was almost voted out twice, made good moves, three immunities. Hes intelligent. Kieth seems unimpressed.

Spencer - Going into the merge, Jeremy was in a strong position so he deserves a lot of credit. Kieth just walks away after this point. I'd say he's 50/50.

I think Spencer actually takes Keiths vote here, but slightly. Like I said before, 51% vs 49%.

Abi - Has notes. Survivor is a game of big moves, but whats the subtle move that got you to FTC.

Tasha - reconnecting with spencer, and coming into the game with 3 people from her season put targets on her back and while everyone thought her and jer were the power couple, it was her and spencer that were actually leading shit.

Spencer - Shifting distrust off himself and onto Joe.

Jeremy - Jeremy always lost challenges, and his subtle move was hunting for idols and covering Fischbachs butt with them, creating a stronger relationship.

Jeremy probably wins here by showing he's loyal to Abi, someone who craves feeling loved/loyalty from others.

Kimmi - Calls out spencer for being a bully against Wentworth and how she'll use that as a lesson for her children and then is upset at Jer and Tash for ruining their group of three.

Jer- I never said you were against me, you said I was against you and then you turned on me so I had to turn on you. (I think Jer saves himself Kimmis vote here easily)

Jer wins

Joe - Open vote. Doesnt believe Tasha was controlling anything, wants an example of when she had something out of control and then pulled it back in to her control

Tasha - Strong woman from corporate america, got joe voted out, got Jer and Spencer to vote against him so they would be at FTC. Otherwise she chose her battles because thats the battle of the game within the game

No real information given here. I'd feel its a toss up.

Wiglesworth - Pick a number (apparently whatever number Jer picked was the right one)

Jer - 2 Tasha - 3 Spencer - 4

Kass - Question for spencer, In their season when Kass repositioner herself, he told her she had 0 chance of winning. How can she vote for him now when he essentially did what she did in their season and has called her a dumbass for it since.

Spencer - Ive said a lot, I dont think im a hypocrite because I believe I changed and the spencer here today isnt the same as the one that said that a couple years ago

Kass - Good on you for thinking youve changed, congrats and maybe we can get over this later.

If anything, I'd say Kass is leaning towards spencer here but it's a toss up, from what we see.

Wentworth - Fresh out of game, everything is raw, came into game wanting to play as an individual, what was the FTC members story and did they accomplish it?

Tasha - My story was to build and maintain relationships to ensure people she was working with knew they had the loyalty of Tasha Spencer - Teetering between who he was and who he is now. First time he played, he had no people skills and it hurt to realize that but now hes working on it, and hes tried to play this game with more social skills and ability than he did before.

OKAY, BREAK. This is EVERYTHING, paraphrased, that is said at FTC before Jer breaks open that Val is pregnant, hes kept that in the whole time and everything was for her.

Break down the votes.

Savage - Jeremy Fischbach - Jeremy Ciera - Jeremy Kieth - Slight Spencer (IMO) Abi - Jeremy Kimmi - Jeremy Joe - Unsure Wiglesworth - Jeremy Kass - Spencer, maybe? Wentworth - Hasn't finished her question yet but with how Spencer went on a tirade against her the night before, pretty safe to say Jeremy.

So yea, like I've SAID. Jeremy was going to win either way but 3 votes still seem up for grabs, with 2 of the 3 possibly leaning Spencers way I think.

Now, the final thing of the night said;

Jeremy gets to close EVERYTHING with his "Im about to have a son, Val came and told me shes fine, I wanted to tell you all so bad, but couldnt because itd put a bigger target on my back! I don't care about anything but family!"

and he says it, or it's cut in a pretty great dramatic fashion

And thats it.

Those 3 votes that seem up for grabs, sway to Jeremy because the thought process basically goes, "Yea, Spencer played slightly better but now that I know Jeremy was holding onto this 'HUGE' burden not being able to open up to us and he go to FTC, I vote him over Spencer"

and boom, the FTC vote goes from a possible 7-3, which gives the season a little more credibility. Which makes the final readout of votes a little more suspensful, which makes Spencer seem like he played the game he did instead of a game where he got completely slaughtered, to 10-0 which discredits everything.

No, the Jury isnt stupid but YES they are human beings so YES they are emotional and YES they have been through the ringer the past 39 days playing a game, developing relationships, forming bonds with these people and YEA given the opprotunity to help a family out of someone you consider a friend with a bonus of 1 million dollars for their new child, YOURE PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE IT.

So get your head out of your asses. You're absolutley fucking blind if you cant see how Jeremy getting the final say, and dropping that story doesn't change the votes drastically enough to go from SOME going Spencer's way to NONE.

The Jury FOCUSED on Jeremy and Spencer questions. The two of them were the front runners, and for Spencer to not get ONE vote? Why the fuck do you think that is? It's not that he had a worse game or FTC than Jeremy, up until Jeremy tells his story, They're pretty fucking even, but then the story comes out and its done. It's done. I don't know how else to put it. You're absolutely blind if you dont see that.

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