“Look, having a flow chart—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Flow Charts, very good, very smart —you know, if you’re a conservative flow chart, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal flow chart, they would say I’m one of the best flow charts anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative flow chart they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good chart, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the Venn diagram deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (charts are powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the Venn diagram—now it used to be three circles, now it’s four—but when it was three circles and even now, I would have said it’s all about what's in the middle; diagrams, and it is diagrams because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the charts are better right now than the diagrams, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Bar charts are great negotiators, the Pie charts are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”