[warning: academic rant] Just had a paper on Palestinian youth in terrorism rejected by UK Criminology journal

In those cases, people are rebelling against their own society and against their own countrymen in the police force.

what? it seems you assume a) there are no Arabs in the Israeli Police and b) most countries are homogenous and have no foreign visitors. However, police do not merely enforce the law against their own "countrymen." Anyway, it was just an off-hand example, not meant to be a nuanced comparison of intricacies involved in both issues, just a general statement expressing that it is rare where manuscripts that focus on a particular issue are held responsible for fully representing a completely oppositional view. Namely, that violence (by any other definition) must a priori be excused by the researchers--the article actually focuses on how the participants explained their experience, so there is little need for such a priori context, as it is present in the data. The children are largely manipulated by adults, as happens the world over in gangs and the like. So perhaps a better example would have been that researchers who write about gangs would not necessarily be asked to write about how the criminal justice system treats gangs unfairly, though that is imperfect as well for a number of reasons. I think the kids in our study are victims of their environment to a great extent, and we portrayed them accordingly... but the reviewer had their mind made, perhaps.

With the children's case, it is similar, but not to the degree that you think it is. It is similar in that the children are also rebelling, but it is different in that the children are rebelling against a foreign force, not a domestic one.

I am shocked you already understand the degree to which I think anything. Your distinction between foreign and domestic forces is one issue, but is less relevant to the research in question (as I said, the police example was just an example). That is, those involved in the research did not necessarily attack police, but also civilian targets.

These children and their families have no say in the laws, regulations, or actions that the IDF or Israeli police take.

I always find it sad when Palestinians are portrayed in such a disempowering way. And I disagree that there is nothing that can be done to avoid interacting with the IDF and Israeli police, as it is possible to go out of one's way to do so, and with violent intent. However, you are right that often it is those OUTSIDE of the family that draw them towards activities that lead them to come into contact with IDF and Israeli police through stone-throwing and worse.

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