Can we please just leave Christmas alone it a National holiday not even that religious any more can it just be a time of joy and cheer and Santa clause

Whenever I hear "Jesus is the reason for the season," I think about how "Pagans celebrated Saturnalia at the winter solstice, a festival holiday that was held on 17 December of the Julian calendar and later expanded with festivities through to 23 December. The holiday was celebrated with a sacrifice at the Temple of Saturn, in the Roman Forum, and a public banquet, followed by private gift-giving, continual partying, and a carnival atmosphere that overturned Roman social norms. It is likely that such a Christian feast was chosen for Christ's marked contrast and triumph over paganism; indeed, new converts who attempted to introduce pagan elements into the Christian celebrations were sharply rebuked."

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