Thank you for the genuine reply, I'm tired of the platitudes "Dommes are everywhere, they're just quiet", I'm just asking for people to acknowledge the reality of dating as a sub male without gaslighting and making it the subs fault he's alone.

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I think a lot of men who identify as submissive/bottom just stay around for their arousal (as evident even from posts on this sub) and have their hopes up from all the porn talk that comes from findoms and fake profiles (not on this sub), take away those 2 factors there will be a significant decline in male subs. I have been detached from the fantasy of femdom early on as not to be mislead, I've read a lot of F/m non fiction, the non fiction reality is the lifestyle I want, an obedience/service oriented dynamic where I feel owned and cherished for my nature, the kinky play is just a bonus, however once you clear your head from the porn talk you'll see that that's unlikely to happen, at least if you're young, monogamous and don't like "BBW's".

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I will likely do what you suggested, I think more women would be into it if they were educated about it, I think a lot of them just consider submission weakness and a burden, when all I want is to please and lessen burdens to make the dominants life easier, I'm also more than game to service top. I know a lot of submissive women consider it emasculating for a man to obey them and bottom for them, from what I've read vanilla women have the same view but to a lesser degree, I'll never understand it, but it is what it is.

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