[Serious] How would one go about convincing another, about the validity of science?

"13 years sure seems like a long time, until you realize that even relatively young countries have been around for MUCH longer. And the issues being fought over have, in some instances, persisted for CENTURIES." I don't understand why you're comparing the age of a country to the length of a WAR, or why you refrain from CALLING IT WHAT IT IS, you keep saying "actions", "present course of action", "issues being fought" but you never call it WAR. Then you try to deliberately confuse War with cultural/religious differences when you say that countries are older than wars they've participated in (like the standard for a country being peaceful and good in your mind is not being at war for the duration of it's ENTIRE existance) and vaguely described social issues. (NONVIOLENT & VIOLENT YET SEPERATE FROM DECLARED WARS) You also capitalize "MUCH" and "CENTURIES" like i'm supposed to go "Oh yeah, well i guess since we haven't been at war ALWAYS, then we're a peaceful country" and "well those damn dirty muslims have been in-fighting for CENTURIES, we're just the world's policeman trying to have them get along, their fighting is worse cuz they've been doing it longer and/or they're not american" Dude! After we toppled Saddam, a secular Ba'athist Sunni, America shoves in his place, Maliki, a Shia. Effectively destabilizing, De-Ba'athifying the government and seriously pissing off the populace, and ask yourself, how did ISIS gain so much territorial power? Not the original fundamentalist morons, it was owed to Sadaam's Ba'athist generals who teamed up with ISIS, who ALSO sought to place Sunni's back in power, like interests, so they took over a ton of territory together and you would likely blame Obama for a problem that BUSH STARTED. There are your "many factors" that you keep hiding behind, with PROOF that we are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for ISIS by REMOVING SADDAM. And I sincerely hope that you actually understand the difference between Shia and Sunni, because it's RELEVANT and btw, that means ISIS and IRAN, are enemies. If you weren't already aware. It seems like constant war is what you really want because the propaganda has taught you that war is simply an inevitable facet of humanity, am I talking to fucking Billy Kristol?? You simply don't live in the same reality that I do.

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