What do you guys think about Nootropics?

This first- can you explain this part? Why are both together better than either separately?

Protein eaten without carbohydrate stimulates a stronger insulin response.

but he does make the interesting point that the opiate-analogs that exist in all dairy form part of the biological basis for mother-child bonding

Milk can filter many things out. Plus, if you buy organic or local milk, it is probably much cleaner and without all those nasties.

Also, Dr. Neal Barnard was my formal introduction to the "argument against dairy". So

If casein is a potent carcinogen as per Neal, than I have serious doubts about him as an "expert" of nutrition biochemistry. Human breast milk contains casein. So in Neal's view, our moms are killing us by breast feeding us?

So your 'no starch in the rat' story seems out of place- it's the expected result, because humans and rats both can digest starch. But what I'm going for, and what I think is the case, is the rat who eats green beans will have them digesting in its gut for a long time, because there is more indigestible material for the rat, but his gut bacteria will go to town and break the bean down- both releasing that material itself as energy on some level, but more importantly, letting out the energy encapsulated behind these materials.

Things that are poorly digested that pass along with a lot of food value down into the intestine where bacteria thrive on them.

Things like fruit are so quickly digested by most people. The liquid parts, minerals and sugars can be largely absorbed before you get down to the bacterial area of the intestine.

The more indigestible the food is the more risky it is for supporting an overgrowth of bacteria. And if your digestion happens to be poor, then more foods will pass along and become bacteria food.

Indigestible fibrous materials, types of starch that can't be broken down by animal or human enzymes, become good food for bacteria and many of these are being promoted for intestinal health to stimulate peristalsis and so on.

About 30 years ago some Australian studies saw that people who ate a lot of oat-bran were increasing the risk for bowel cancer. Certain type of fibre cause such intense growth of bacteria that the bacteria produce many types of toxins.

There's a study I need to chase down that I was citing with between 3-6x insulin response as you would have for other foods of comparable composition. It was conducted in Denmark (I Think?) with a medium cohort (I think<!?> over a hundred or hundreds of people), and I think around 2007-ish. I may be remembering any of these details wrong but I've got it somewhere, I just need to find it.

If you eat/drink the dairy with carbohydrates you can blunt the insulin response.

Looking over my food logs, my average serving is several tablespoons of kimchi, every other day. I don't think this is unreasonable, but I'd love more input.

A small amount is not a problem, the problem occurs when people go overboard thinking "Fermented = Good" and they're eating pickles by the jar.

Which isn't to say that this is anything more than anecdote- it isn't, more research clearly needs to be done. But these doses are small enough that even when more adverse effects are identified later, I don't think I'll have been in any danger from using as little as I have, and it's a risk I take seriously.

Small doses are probably safe but prolonged small doses combined with other nootropics can definitely lead to harmful effects, especially if your source isn't 100% pure.

If it's a good flavor, I don't care if the other benefits are bullshit. Good flavors help the good foods go down, bad flavors tend to make them come back up.

Yea, herbs&spices are generally good unless you're overdoing do it.

My math puts that 0.75 mg per dose, which is just about exactly what I'm going for

Ok, that's a safe dose, I'd still suggest not taking every night, but it seems you're already only taking it on nights where you're having trouble sleeping.

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