Motivation will fail you.

It's cool that you responded, I respect that.

I took issue with the tone of your post, rather than the content. I understand what you're getting at, and I don't disagree. In fact, I use this same argument to describe the difference between clinical ADHD and personality flaws (e.g. laziness)- laziness is doing nothing, ADHD is an obstacle that makes doing something more challenging. In other words, I'm being lazy when I watch netflix all day instead of studying for a test, I'm battling ADHD when I stare at an assignment for hours and put 3x more mental effort than most people need into starting and staying and getting it done.

It just hits a sore spot for me when people say or post things like "you just have to do THIS!" and "from this point on you will change your life THIS WAY!". I've collected a fair amount of research on ADHD's effect on cognition and self esteem (I'm a psychology grad student and I'm doing my thesis on ADHD in adults), and the research is pretty clear that this kind of thinking is inevitably detrimental because when people repeatedly resolve to change their bad habits overnight and fail, self-esteem takes a huge hit. Most people with ADHD spend their entire lives hitting that wall, and internalize a definition of themselves as failures- it develops into a negative cognitive feedback loop where the shittier they feel about themselves, the less functional they become, which makes them feel even shittier, etc. This feedback loop is such a big problem in ADHD people that its becoming one of the primary areas of focus in its clinical model and treatment. This is why a supportive environment, and cognitive behavioral therapy is so important. Most people know what they NEED to do to improve, they just need to learn HOW. And they need to learn that although it's harder for them, that doesn't make them failures.

That being said, I think you were going for kick-in-the-butt motivation rather than a demeaning lecture, and clearly many people took it the way you intended and were glad for your advice. Just because it rubbed me the wrong way doesn't mean you were wrong! I apologize for getting all worked up, and thanks for the civil discussion :)

/r/ADHD Thread