I know what you mean about the disorders, I wasn't saying "you are an incel" if you have those, absolutely not. I should've worded it better, you are right. I mean that sometimes, with those disorders combined or sometimes just on their own, it can cause people like incels to break down into insecurity, along with possibly a lack of social interaction, they start hating themselves and see ugliness when they see themselves. I've seen incels who barely look like they take care of themselves, and I think that would come from the "depression" aspect, as well as the "nobody wants me" part of it is from the depression, too.

So I'm saying, for some people if they got rejected or bullied in early life and possibly or not socially isolated for a while and already developed some sort of social phobia disorder and depression, for them it fumbles and slips into inceldom through mass insecurity and social anxiety.